added 104,000 jobs, and the government sect or added 10,000. we saw health care jobs created. more than 44,000 there. this has been a trend for a couple of years. about 16,000 jobs lost over there in the manufacturing sector, which is, of course, very, very important to some of these battleground states, suzanne. >> christy, some of the attacks from conservatives, such as jack welch, saying they don't believe the numbers. they believe the books are cooked essentially. explain the process of how we reach these numbers today? >> there's spin, and then there are conspiracy theories, and the spin, which is valid, if spin can be valid, is that, you know, look, you still have only 114,000 jobs created on balance. that's -- you know, you immediate on see more than that at this stage of a recovery, but let me be very clear here. these are two different reports that they put together. right? one of them is a survey of people at home where you call them up and say are you working and the people say yes or no and explain how. the other is a survey of employers where they ask are you hiring? that's